Poor man's Vinyl to MP3 Conversion (Mac OS X)

Second update: Appropriate tools are finally available for you to rip your vinyl without these kludgy methods. I'm currently using my turntables through Numark's DMX01 USB Mixer.

Update: The "Poor man" experiment was my first try at coming up with a process to rip vinyl. I've concluded that the poor man process produces rather large MP3s of decent quality, which is unacceptable to me. I am demoing shareware and low-cost commercial recorders/encoders that produce smaller file sizes with better sound reproduction and which allow editing. See Better Vinyl to MP3 Conversion (Mac OS X) for a review of alternative applications. Someone has also suggested using ProTools Free, but that only works for OS 9, unfortunately.

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In the past 6 months I have been freeing my time up from professional activities to focus on getting our family settled in our new Park Slope home and to allow myself more time to get back to some of the things I enjoy that have been neglected. One of these things is mixing music.

I was once a mobile DJ in high school and college and have long been a bedroom DJ. But personal and professional commitments pushed mixing music to the side for a long time. A few weeks ago, however, I found Traktor DJ Studio and wondered if I could find a way to play at mixing again. So I started planning to set up my turntables on my desk so I could experiment with low-cost methods of getting my vinyl onto my Mac as MP3S. Thanks to a bit of terminal insomnia, I got up this morning around 3am and burned my first two tracks. Here's my notes about the process.

desk set up

Equipment

Hardware

  • Apple Macintosh G4 QuickSilver 1.42Ghz DP with 120GB HD
  • Cornea MP704 17" LCD monitor
  • Mini Stereo (3.5MM) to Dual RCA Plugs
  • Technics SL1200MK2 Direct Drive turntables
  • Vestax Mixtick Pro Mixer
  • Benwin flat panel speakers
  • Headphones

Software

The process overview

Set up was fairly easy. I set up the turntables and mixer on the desk and ran RCA -> mini stereo cables from the Rec out on the mixer (or preamp if you don't have a mixer) to the audio input on the back of the mac. Then it's just a matter of recording your tracks to the Mac as .aiff and encoding the .aiff as .mp3. Recording and encoding tracks went like this:

Step 1. Record audio using CD Spin Doctor

  1. Open "Applications > Roxio Toast Titanium > Roxio Music > CD Spin Doctor > CD Spin Doctor 1.5.1"
  2. Cue track on turntable
  3. Press red record button on CD Spin Doctor and play/release record and wait until the song finishes.
  4. Press Stop button on CD Spin Doctor and stop turntable.
  5. Optionally click the waveform-looking button to run any normalization filters in CD Spin Doctor to remove pops or boost volume.
  6. Select "File > Save as" and save your .aiff track somewhere.

cd spin doctor

Step 3. Convert aiff to mp3 in iTunes

  1. Open "Applications > iTunes".
  2. In the Finder, open the folder where you saved your aiff file and move your windows around so you can see the folder and iTunes.
  3. Drag your aiff file into iTunes.
  4. Find your aiff file. Easiest way to do this that I know of is by being in Browse mode (click the Eye icon in the upper right). Select "Library" in the Source pane on the left. Select "All" in the artist pane at the top . Your track should be at the bottom of the list because it will have no Artist value.
  5. With the track selected, select "Advanced > Convert Selection to MP3". iTunes will show a temporary playlist that reads "Converting Songs..." while it encodes your track.
  6. Remove the original aiff file. Select the new track and click CMD-i to add Artist and Album information if you want. I also added Genre "Vinyl" to my tracks so I can find them quickly. I don't use Genre otherwise in iTunes.

itunes

Voila. You now have an mp3 of your vinyl. I found this very simple. I had done this a long time ago on my G3 using a shareware app like Peak LE or something (I don't recall the correct name of the app). This went much smoother because of the built-in MP3 encoding in iTunes and because of the speediness of my Mac. The main purpose of this experiment was to see if I could get away with ripping my vinyl without having to spend a lot of money on ProTools and other hardware. I really spent nothing to do this because I already had the hardware and Roxio Toast Titanium.

So I'm going to keep at it, ripping selected tracks from my collection so I can start playing with mixing on a computer using Traktor (see screenshot below of my first play session). If you know of any easier way to do this process with little investment, please tell me about it.

tracktor

Read more in: "Better Vinyl to MP3 encoding".

Comments

01 Anonymous
12/29/03 @ 17:10

Hey I am in the process of converting my vinyl to CD. I bought a decent Stanton turntable to do the job as I sold my 1200's a few years ago after college (ironic I had to BUY a turntable to get rid of my vinyl...). I was the last of the vinyl DJ's in the late 90's and still shiver when i see a club DJ not on the 1's and 2's, but that is how it goes. Kids need little skill these days...

One product I was interested in can be found at http://www.d-vinyl.ch/d-vinyl2020.html

There are a couple of others like it out there so look around.

it allows you to take your converted mp3 tracks and use your existing 1200's to manipulate the music as if it were vinyl. I don't know if it is any good or if there is any lag, but it might be worth investigating.

Chris W.

02 Anonymous
01/12/04 @ 19:27

While ripping you vinyl did you ever pick up anything else through your PC. I am getting German radio as well as the sound from the turntable but can neither locate it source (apart from Germany) or get rid of it. Any Ideas... If you have then let me know at http://www.simonkisner.34sp.com/menace/archives/000288.html#000288

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03 gabriel
12/15/04 @ 14:54

Hi there,

I am trying to rip my vinyl collection to my Mac using Spark XL (in OSX). I have succesfully used Spark to rip from tape so I know it does work, but I cannot get it to work ripping vinyl.

I have my turntable connected to my amp via the phono stage, then the amp's 'tape out' into my Audiowerk 2 soundcard on the Mac. I am getting no signal in the record dialogue box but the sound is coming out of my speakers. Can anyone suggest where I am going wrong?

Many thanks!

g.

04 Anonymous
11/29/05 @ 17:31

to Gabriel,
You might need a phono pre-amp you can get em at radio shack for like 12.00 bucks,

05 Anonymous
05/18/06 @ 02:54

I've used Audacity to convert audio cassettes to MP3

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

To be honest, I find that the hardest part is getting stuff like noise reduction and eq, compression, etc, right.

06 Anonymous
06/13/06 @ 19:38

One problem you may be having with sound quality is converting it to mp3. Mp3 is a lossy format, meaning it has a lower sampling rate than a CD and chops off all frequencies above a certain range, so if you find that your mp3s sound muddy, try instead converting your AIFFs to WAV, SHN, FLAC, or the new Apple Lossless Format. Once you've converted the file to mp3, you can never get the high fidelity sound back, but if you initially convert the AIFFs to a lossless format, you will probably enjoy the sound more. These sound files are larger than mp3s, but if you're burning them to a CD, i would do this, because i would never recommend burning mp3s to a CD, it's a waste of space and will sound muddy and crappy on your stereo system. Of course, if you want to listen to the songs on your mp3 player with headphones, it won't make much difference if you use mp3. just keep in mind that there are better alternatives to mp3.

PS: @ chris w: you're not the last of the vinyl DJs. there are still many around, and there are more vinyl DJs than 'CD' DJs when you speak of mixing DJs and not radio and party rental DJs, as many of the DJs have found that the CD format does not sound as good and cannot be manipulated like a record can.

07 Reed
07/19/06 @ 19:50

I'm using a really low quality portable record player I picked up for cheacp and an imic with Final Vinyl to try and record my LP colleciton to Mp3. The sound qulaity is terrible and I was wondering what the most basic tools I would need to record my vinyls would be. I am not a DJ or anything and don't know how to use a mixer, I'm simply a man in his 60's looking to keep my music alive. Thanks.

08 jibbajabba
07/19/06 @ 20:39

Reed, you need to use a preamp to get the audio through RCA cables to a miniplug and the iMic. If you want to go the cheapest route, get really cheap preamp at Radio Shack.

09 Reed
07/29/06 @ 14:47

Ok, So I bought a new turntable this past week. Its an Audiotechnica AT-PL50. It has a built in pre-amp so it record with better quality. The only problem that is that the sound qulaity is still not fantastic. I was wondering if runnign the turntable through a mixer would make much of a difference. You tlaked about the NUmark USB mixer and I though maybe that would cure all my problems (crackly bass, fuzzy high notes).

Thanks

10 jibbajabba
07/29/06 @ 22:32

Could be the signal from your turntable is poor. The signal probably degrades a bit in the connection from from analog to digital via the iMic as well. I can't tell you where to troubleshoot, but the better your gear and connections, probably the better your signal.

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11 Derek
08/19/06 @ 03:29

There is a great free Open Source sound recording utility called Audacity. There is a Mac OSX version and it is pretty easy to use. The sound quality is excellent.

Sound will be as good as your deck and cartridge -- and you MUST have a phono element built into your sound system or buy one as you have been advocating.

I have a basic home hi fi set up -- Rega Planer 2 deck and Arcam amp. The output I get is very high level -- the deck still plays better than many cds.

If you have a large record collection I suggest that people do invest in a decent Hi Fi deck -- Rega Planer and the hotly reviewed Czech-made Project decks are really beautfiul low cost music players and worth their money. You an pick up good secondhand deals for them on Ebay.
http://www.rega.co.uk/
http://www.audacity.sourceforge.net

As you say always save as a high quality audio file -- burn it to disk and then make the MP3.

12 purple jim
09/26/06 @ 16:00

Hello everybody,

does anyone know how I can connect my Hi-fi to my iBook G3 which has no sound-in jack point, only USB entry ?

Thanks

13 Hans
10/17/06 @ 04:25

I can recommend the new Terratec iVinyl which works very well for inputting phono sound into a USB equipped Mac:
http://entertainen.terratec.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=ar...
It comes with CD Spin Doctor 3.1 which sends recorded aiff tracks directly to iTunes. Sound quality is great.

(NB. I have no commercial interest in Terratec, I'm only a satisfied customer!)

14 Anonymous
11/07/06 @ 03:24

I could only find "Convert Selection to AAC" in iTunes 7.0.2. However, I found a free audio converter for OS X at http://www.nch.com.au/switch/ and it is very easy to use.

15 alleywattson
01/25/08 @ 14:18

But what if I want to go the other way around and convert MP3’s to vinyl? ;-)
Alley :My seo company site

16 VinylFile
08/01/08 @ 06:28

Nice tutorial, just got a Mac myself - will be using it!

Also, I've been converting some before at http://VinylFile.Net

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